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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby AlanL » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:14 am

csimpson wrote:Take this as an opportunity to focus..the tunnel is completely unsafe and would cost millions to repair....but the YWR could be quite successful with a 6 mile line with three beautiful well restored stations and great scenery once past Sledmere and Fimber. This problem of infra-structure maintenance and renewal is not uncommon in railway preservation....why did Peak rail start near Matlock?? maybe to avoid the scenic but costly Tunnels and Viaducts North of Bakewell ?? and us at Embsay not too fussed about the destruction of a huge viaduct straight in Ilkley station...It is the huge burden of maintenance and upkeep. Remember most of us are volunteers and have limited time...


Wherever Peak Rail started there would have been problems but the one problem which is almost insurmountable is the A6 road bridge at Rowsley. As you probably know the original rationale was for a steam centre at Buxton but it eventually became apparent that Rowsley - Matlock was more feasible as it offered a mainline connection, a traffic source (Matlock) and Peak Rail owned the Matlock Station shop. Although it's true that the Rowsley - Buxton section is pretty it only had Bakewell as a traffic source and would involved moving factories out of the way at Bakewell.
The tunnels and viaducts are actually in good condition.
It would be interesting to know if a feasibility study was done -I arrived just after the first panel of track was laid at Darley Dale and I can't remember mention of one - and if it had, whether it would have squahed the Buxton idea.
As far as I remember ideas were simply bounced around, started and then sometimes abandoned.
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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby dodger » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:28 pm

Some new images of burdale tunnels southern portal taken last week, took advantage of the open access to fairydale to have a look see :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bondystuff ... 910884796/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bondystuff ... 5398611932

added a few more shots taken today of warrem chalk silo and the old air shafts above burdale tunnel.
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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby sproke » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:34 pm

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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby dodger » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:20 pm

sproke wrote:It's really annoying. Somebody without permission lifted some interesting images of the inside of Burdale Tunnel, taken very recently by members of the East Yorkshire Bat Group, from the Yahoo Bygone Lines group and posted them on this site.
The person who took these pictures has now taken them down from the Yahoo site and will not allow them to be seen by anybody as a result of this. Grrrrrrrrrr !


Cant see why this chap is complaining, you post pics in the public domain its only natural people want to see them especially concidering there content, hate dummy spitters :evil:
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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby E&W Lucas » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:11 am

dodger wrote:Cant see why this chap is complaining, you post pics in the public domain its only natural people want to see them especially concidering there content, hate dummy spitters :evil:


Reading back above, there is a reference to an agreement with Birdsall Estates not to publish the pictures openly.

They could have good reason for not wanting to draw too much attention to the tunnel. If they own it, they could find themselves liable if someone goes exploring & gets hurt. Daft, but that's the way of the world. Meantime, best not to wind up your potential landlords!
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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby 61638 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:47 pm

One point no-one has mentioned is that if you have to build new platforms etc they'll have to conform to modern regulations with regard to height, width etc.- you can see this at Pickering where the extension changes height. Bad news for those of you who want to recreate the M & D of old, and more expensive because you'll have to jump through all the modern day hoops.
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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby dodger » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:50 pm

61638 wrote:One point no-one has mentioned is that if you have to build new platforms etc they'll have to conform to modern regulations with regard to height, width etc.- you can see this at Pickering where the extension changes height. Bad news for those of you who want to recreate the M & D of old, and more expensive because you'll have to jump through all the modern day hoops.


Well the platforms at burdale are still extent, almost exactly as they were originally with just a few trees poking through them !! :D
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Re: Burdale Tunnel

Postby Neil Gow » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:29 pm

Please find attached an image taken from the road near the top of Burdale Tunnel, 30 May 1982.

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